Let me introduce you to the sliding scale. Or as I call it, a return to anything goes recruiting in college athletics. Athletes are no longer bothered by that pesky ACT test, in exchange for adding a couple of extra classes to the core requirements, ACT scores can now be scaled down. A kid with a 4.0 gpa, now only needs a 9 on the ACT to be cleared by the NCAA. This may sound fair but lets think about it for a minute. The power to control the GPA of athletes, lies solely in the hands of their High School, who can be ethical, or like Hoover and ship kids forward to help the team. There is enough grade changing going on now, how much more will occur now that the school, rather than an Independent testing body, has full control? What will happen when a college coach makes a donation to his favorite high schools? I think we are going to see more high schools become nothing more than farm teams for certain colleges. I know this is happening now, but not on the scale that it will, and now they can practically advertise. My wife left a school, in part, because enormous pressure was placed on her to pad the grades of athletes. The coach and administration first told all athletes they couldn't sign up for my wife's classes, then they found a loophole in the tenure laws that they could use to prevent my wife from teaching honors classes. They chose to give the honors classes to new, fresh out of college, and in one case nondegreed, teachers. This left my wife, who has higher degrees, and more experience, than any other teacher at the school, as well as the administrators, to teach a mixture of classes in violation of state law. The school gladly paid the fine, and rather than sue, my wife took a job at another school. The new standards will undo much of the parity college football has enjoyed over the past 25 years, because the more affluent colleges will pay these high schools more than the poor ones. This will reestablish the old guard in college football. Welcome back Notre Dame, Alabama, all Big Ten schools, and most of the Pac 10. I may sound like an alarmist, but I have no doubt in my mind that this is where we're heading.
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TIGER OVERLORD
 Posts: 2518 (04/28/08 16:56:27) 5th Year Senior Tiger |
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Posts: 472 (04/28/08 18:46:08) Junior Tiger |
The people that make it hardest to get into AU is AU Believe it or not. They turn down players that can get in uga(calab King),vandy, uat(Shanto Ray,SPECIAL
ED). I think its harder to get in AU as a football player than Harvard.
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Posts: 214 (04/28/08 20:35:23) |
They are just changing the rules so anyone can get into college...AU RMAN, it is definitely not hard to get into AU as an athlete. True that they do often
recruit guys with good grades, but they also recruit the ones with just talent. The football team only has to keep a 1.8 GPA to remain academically eligible,
which isn't that hard either. If you look at recruits for schools like Stanford, most have GPA's from 3.5 to 4.0. Auburn isn't going to recruit a
kid that they know has no chance to succeed (i.e. Caleb King...my x-girlfriend went to GAC with him and said he was the most retarted individual she had ever
met, and was given grades), but we will recruit players who are on the border of passing high school or not.
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TIGER OVERLORD
Posts: 6580 (04/29/08 04:12:07) |
really does not matter what the rules are as the ones who will cheat or going to cheat and the ones who try to run a clean program are going to run a clean
program. I honestly dont think some of these coaches are at all interested in academics and it is sad as the recent draft just clearly illustrates how few of
these kids are going to make it as a pro.
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TIGER OVERLORD
Posts: 2194 (04/29/08 06:26:00) Tiger Alumnus |
If a kid has a 4.00 GPA and scores anywhere near a 9 on the ACT, the school administrators should be shot on sight. OK maybe that is a little harsh but when
test scores and grades are so out of correlation it should prompt an investigation. I really question the concept of the sliding scale including grade/test
score combinations so far off from one another.
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TIGER OVERLORD
Posts: 2518 (04/29/08 08:55:28) 5th Year Senior Tiger |
First, Vet this pretty much removes the need for college coaches to cheat. It will all be done within the rules, all that is needed is for big donors to
"sponsor" high schools, who will in turn line the coaches pocket. The coach then sets up certain teachers to play ball, and voila, a football factory
is born. That high school coach will do the recruiting for his school, on condition the athlete sign with the college of the coaches choice, or risk failure.
As for the disparity in scores MYX, it should matter, but we both know it won't. There are players who pretty much fit this scenario, who will be eligible
this year, and neither the NCAA, nor the university will care. This is bad for everybody, especially the kids, who no longer have to even keep up the pretense
that they care about academics. IMHO the required score on the ACT for athletes should be fixed at 20. That is a relatively easy score to make, if you have the
apptitude to get a useful college degree. I can say this knowing my son, who won't be a national merit scholar, made an 18 on his ACT in the 7th grade,
which wasn't nearly the highest in his school. A school which has never had a single National Merit Finalist.
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TIGER OVERLORD
Posts: 2194 (04/29/08 09:21:44) Tiger Alumnus |
I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 would be a good minimum requirement (maybe 18 or even 16 depending on how much of a chance you want to give someone who is not from an academically driven background). But someone who scores a 9 is extremely unlikely to hold their own in college unless passing grades are just given out. This is just asking for scandal. Actually its giving up and saying grade cheating is OK. I think a score of 9 is probably someone who lacks the intellectual level to function in society without assistance. Hardly an individual who would have a 4.00 GPA. The only way I could see this combination happening is if your typical 4.00 GPA student showed up on test day with the flu or had a concussion the day before and couldn't really complete the test. That is why we allow retest. |
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Posts: 392 (04/29/08 15:17:08) Flounder |
Why dont they let LD kids enter the NFL ...im not being funny, Do they have a age you can enter a contract or do you have to have the 2 years of school ?
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They'd get killed | ||
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TIGER OVERLORD
Posts: 2518 (04/29/08 16:15:24) 5th Year Senior Tiger |
No high school kid is NFL ready, no matter how good they are. I really would like to see an NFL developmental league, this would return college football to
what it was intended to be. Students from schools competing against each other. I'm probably in the minority, but I really would like to see college
scholarships given to deserving students, and not to kids who really don't belong at major universities. The eligibility requirements should be the same as
they would be for academic scholarships. The quality of the game might suffer, but the kids playing would be truly playing to represent the school, and not to
enhance their draft prospects.
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 Posts: 125 (04/29/08 16:23:27) Freshman Tiger |
I think they should let anyone play college sports regardless of grades. Just because someone isn't smart enough to pass a class does not mean they should
be denied the opportunity to succeed in professional sports. Baseball has it right, they can draft kids out of high school. Football and basketball require or
force kids to "do something" until they are old enough to play in the league. It should be up to the college whether or not they want to recruit that
person.
I see it this way. If Joe Schmo can play football but isn't smart, he shouldn't be forced to sit around for 2 years and then go to the NFL. I don't know if juco's will deny kids from going, but sometimes, athletics are the only way someone will succeed. Everyone of us has watched an interview of an athlete and thought "why in the world would anyone let this person even open their mouth? It's embarassing." and if you haven't thought that, you're lying.... |
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Posts: 471 (04/30/08 04:43:34) Freshman Tiger |
Scoring a 9 on the ACT is accomplished by filling in your name, gender, and ethnicity! What a crock of @+#+. Its not hard to make a 16-22 on your ACT, unless
you just can't read period. In that case something else needs to be addressed, because how the hell did you make it through High School!
"Believe me on this. Please. I have descended into college football's Grand Canyon. I have stood in its Alps. I have gazed at
its ocean sunset. I have attended a game at Jordan-Hare Stadium in Auburn, Ala. And I've been changed forever".
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