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Just wanted to respond respectfully to a few of your points: Not to tell you your wrong but what I disagree with.

It is a statistical fact that more african american women have kids out of wed lock

It's also a statistical fact that more African American women are in poverty than Caucasian women. You'll find that caucasian women in poverty are much more likely to be single parents with an absentee dad than people who are not impoverished. So, is it about race or a culture or poverty? I happen to have two freinds that have two babies each from different moms and each are not finacially supporting all their children. Each are kids themselves that come from broken homes, and each are white.


Don't tell me that they are trapped in urban areas. Come on over to Iuka, MS where rent is cheap and groceries are too.

The culture of poverty is not a geograpghy based theory. It's a trap based upon a learned mentality that needs to be broken. I'm not advocating avoiding personal responsibility. The African American Community needs to take action to step out of this destructive cycle. American History has contributed significantly to the destructive mindset and I believe All of America needs to embrace social programs designed to lift people out of poverty if they are willing to work towards it. We need strong mental health programs for the poor. Rehabilitation programs. Urban investment programs. Low income scholarship programs. Mentorship programs. Healthcare for all. Better inner City Education. These things and more are the way to unite All Americans and help race disappear as an issue.

Glad we agree on something! Get off your fokking throne pal and stop telling me that I'm bad simply based on the white color of my skin as you try to give EXTRA to people with darker skin tones. You are the epitome of a racist.

I think you're a 'bad person' cause you hate people based on the color of their skin. Ever been to a Klan meeting Fiesty? Why don't you answer that one honestly unless you're ashamed of your beliefs?


Not necessarily. What you are angry about is when I state a fact. Do blacks commit more crimes per capita/ YES! I can show you the stats. One would think that you would actually CARE about factual info (being a teacher and all) but it's more important to you to lie to your students and pretend that it isn't so..... all in the name of "I care". Example goes for other 2 you mentioned. You are so damn busy screeching that you are the smartest guy in the world that you won't shut up long enough to ask someone WHY they say or think what they do.

You haven't given a single thought about anything I've posted then. We both acknowledge that there are lower levels of wedlock, higher single parent rates, reliance of Welfare, and higher crime in the Black community. I believe it's based in a history of poverty and discrimation. You believe it's because African Americans are inferior.

Maybe you have and maybe you haven't but you are encouraging generations of people to do so.

No Maybe's to it. I haven't. You remain a hippocrite. Bitc%ing about Blacks on Welfare while snacking on your government cheese.

You are nasty through and through. THis is the 3rd or 4th time you have felt the need to post pics of obese women in your tiny juvenile way of trying to shut me down

Is this the part where you start crying? You're as nasty as Hitler on Crack and then you start crying when you get it right back in Kind. Poor uneducated, government supported redneck. Don't respond to me in a thread if u can't take the resultant beating!



Plaintruth

I'm sure you're familiar with James Carville, the dem political strategist. The guy is pretty sharp but sums up the way most dems argue points these days. He never let any opposing view be heard, and you have to laugh at how the guy goes about doing this. When he knows he has lost an argument, and that happens frequently, he just gets louder and nastier, like an eight year old on the playground who covers his ears and shouts til he gets what he wants.

Which point exactly was I supposed to respond to in the original post:

"Well my GOODNESS! Here comes the wakko "teacher" that is filling innocent children's heads with his racist pathetic rants. You really need to come up for air pal and stop trying to throw your chit onto everyone else. Is it your claim that every person with dark skin was a slave? Is it your contention that every darker skinned person is a decendant of a slave? Is it your contention that dark skin=innocent?
How in the HELL can you sweep your huge limpo gay america-hating liberal brush across my whiteness and tell me that I don't care about others and that I am responsible for all the evil in my country?

I resent pigs like you. You wake up every morning full of hatred and whining about how life "isn't fair". Instead of worrying about your own business you feel the need to inundate others with your 'miserableness'. You are the worst kind of idiot and very dangerous to society. To you, darker skin gives you special priveledges, and by DAMN that is, in FACT the definition of being a racist.

I have never hurt a black person in my life so fU for every time you insinuate that I have. Get over yourself already. "


Get off your high horse Plaintruth. You talk about registering black youths in one breath and kiss the A$$ of a blatant racist in the next. Those kids would be so proud!

Lift ev'ry voice and sing,

Till earth and heaven ring.

Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;

Let our rejoicing rise,

High as the list'ning skies,

Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.

Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,

Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;

Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,

Let us march on till victory is won.

Stony the road we trod,

Bitter the chast'ning rod,

Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;

Yet with a steady beat,

Have not our weary feet,

Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?

We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,

We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,

Out from the gloomy past,

Till now we stand at last

Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.

God of our weary years,

God of our silent tears,

Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;

Thou who has by Thy might,

Led us into the light,

Keep us forever in the path, we pray.

Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,

Lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee,

Shadowed beneath thy hand,

May we forever stand,

True to our God,

True to our native land. "

Was it appropriate to sing in place of the anthem? Probably not. Did she do you a favor by doing so? Maybe. The lyrics sure are beautiful. I don't have to be black to understand the value of those words. "

A very long look at the cycle of poverty and a history of discrimination. The Cycle of poverty is huge in academia and Billions are spent trying to examine and counter it. Not one single right wing comment has addressed the issue. Funny that.

Post 2:

�"described a learned lifestyle that is affected by a history of poverty and racism. I don't think anyone is trapped in poverty. But I do believe that statistically, those in poverty are more likely to propagate a new generation of children that stay in poverty. immigrants come with there own history. immigrants come with there own background. America to them is a land of great freedom. Especially in comparison to what there life was prior to coming here. They come and achieve. If Americans looked at America as the land of opportunity, then they probably would achieve more. But America is not seen as a land of new beginnings by people that are geneartional Americans. It would be helpful if our policies create an America that is percieved as a land of opportunity for those that have been 'trapped' in the cycle of poverty for multi generations. Policies like the ones I mentioned would go a long way to doing that.
The cycle of poverty is viscious and appears like a trap. Read the following if u like:
NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5300726

A Christian Viewpoint
http://www.crcna.org/pages/sea_cycleofpoverty.cfm

Educational Inequality:

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2007/01/04/17wellbeing.h26.html "

More posting on the cycle and links to articles exploring it form DIFFERENT viewpoints


Post 3:

"I am in no way insinuating that you are a racist despite my disagreeing with your beliefs. I don't know you and nothing posted by you infers that to me. I think we all are prejudiced. Every single one of us has views that are shaped in some way by a stereotype. But racist... No, I wasn't implying that and hope you didn't get that out of my post. "
Demonstrates that I don't imply that people are racists for simply disagreeing. I call them out when they actually are racist.

Notice Fiesty didn't answer this question. Maybe she missed it.� Let me post it again so that yiou don't miss it.

HAVE YOU BEEN TO A KLAN MEETING BEFORE?

Now here is what Fiesty has contribute to this thread:

Post 1:

�"Well hellFAR beav! I done looked and looked and ain't found no doggone white history stuff NO'WAHR!

No chit though, the dems want light skinned people to be ashamed of who they are and any success they have in their lives. In their same warped minds, they will +@@* on a black successful rightwinger in a NY minute, PROVING that they are actually lying about wanting black people in general to succeed. What they want is SOCIALIST and needy people so they can buy their votes with my money. "

Something about Dems "Chitting on Black People when they succeed and wanting White people to be ashamed of being white?�� No, I don't think that's been said. Personally I want white people to acknowledge the terrible effects slavery has had on a nation so that we can start to heal the rift.

Post 2:

"There it is! Of course, the blacks themselves should know better. Isn't it common sense?"

A post about Blacks should know better and common sense.

Post 3:

Well my GOODNESS! Here comes the wakko "teacher" that is filling innocent children's heads with his racist pathetic rants. You really need to come up for air pal and stop trying to throw your chit onto everyone else. Is it your claim that every person with dark skin was a slave? Is it your contention that every darker skinned person is a decendant of a slave? Is it your contention that dark skin=innocent?
How in the HELL can you sweep your huge limpo gay america-hating liberal brush across my whiteness and tell me that I don't care about others and that I am responsible for all the evil in my country?

I resent pigs like you. You wake up every morning full of hatred and whining about how life "isn't fair". Instead of worrying about your own business you feel the need to inundate others with your 'miserableness'. You are the worst kind of idiot and very dangerous to society. To you, darker skin gives you special priveledges, and by DAMN that is, in FACT the definition of being a racist.

I have never hurt a black person in my life so fU for every time you insinuate that I have. Get over yourself already.

"

Let's see a post about pigs, black people, gay hating liberals, blah blah blah.....................


Nice contributions made to the topic don't you think.

Word of advice Plaintruth. If you want to claim to be one thing then maybe you should look at the big old cart of� $hit you've hitched your wagon too! Just sayin' is all!

Fiesty Answer the damn question above. You can't miss it! And one more thing in regards to your posts.



Just to remind you to answer the question, This youtube video is for you Fiesty! Enjoy