Here is something to make your blood boil

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feeds@yuku.com (wcvet) — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:27:54 GMT

We have a former president who stopped crime with a gun (Reagan). Of course it was in the 30's but it is detailed in Michael Reagan's book "City on a HIll". I think BUsh is smarter than he is given credit for being he is just inarticulate ( think LEs Miles). Unfortunately being President is not all about intellligence. I think Carter was pretty smart intellectually and we all know what happened on his watch and Nixon was brilliant but let his paranoia get the best of him....

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feeds@yuku.com (auburnfootball) — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:37:09 GMT

tpt, we totally agree on 2nd ammendment rights. In fact, I think current federal gun laws are too restrictive, although I've never been in a position that I felt threatened to a point I feel the need to carry a weapon on my person.

Gun owner's are screwed when it comes to this election - all of the 3 major candidates are no friends of gun owners. Surprisingly, McCain has sponsored some of the most restrictive gun control laws ever put before Congress.

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (theplainstruth) — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:33:57 GMT

I carry a weapon(sometimes) and I feel that doing so, makes it much less likely that I will be a victim. That is something the anti-gun lobby wouldn't want you to know. Armed citizens can prevent many of the crimes we see, it's time to get out of the "victim" mentalility. As for Mccain, he isn't my first choice, but compared to the ruin and divisiveness Obama brings, not to mention the chaos, and the socialist quagmire of Clinton, I have no real choice. WDE

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (auburnfootball) — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:34:57 GMT

Words of advice I once received - If you carry a gun, be prepared to either live by it or die by it, because one or the other will eventually happen.

Is John McCain Dumber than George Bush?

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (aubie315) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:05:15 GMT

Bus, that's a horrible situation and I feel for the victim's family and the shooter...But it's an accident and accidents happen everyday. I just believe that accidents with guns get more attention. Accidents are bound to happen. People are accidentally hurt by all type of things and situations. What about the MLB 3rd base coach that was killed last year by a line drive to his head, people are accidentally injured by cars (not involving alcohol or drugs), kids die playing...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (theplainstruth) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:51:06 GMT

I don't fault the shooter in this instance, after all he was protecting his home from a perceived threat. I might have warned the guy that I was about to shoot, with the hope that he would stop what he was doing and surrender, but that is the extent of my warning. My first responsibility on this Earth is to protect my family, and unless some one gives up quickly after a warning, I would shoot. It's not something I would want to do, but it is my responsibility. In this case, the young...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (wcvet) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:43:17 GMT

Feces happens. that is why they call it an accident. For everyone of these you post I can come up with one where some home intruder was wasted. I am sure the Redskins wish Sean Taylor had a gun on him when his home was broken into. NO situation is perfect and no one answer is the right one for every situation. It is a tragedy the boy lost his life but he was probably inebriated being he tried to enter the wrong apartment so he may not have been a totally innocent victim in this scenario.

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feeds@yuku.com (luvbus03) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:26:02 GMT

If poperely trained to handle those situations, I assume that the number of innocent people affected would go down. If its just some joe blow pizza delivery guy, than yes more innocent people would be in danger.

Here is a different story for you guys. Tell me what you think. My question (with out everyone getting their panties all bunched up) is, could this have been handled a different way? OR would you have just blazed your way through the living room?

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Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (McTigger89) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:48:04 GMT

Not trying to make you feel stupid in any way. This just strikes a nerve in me because some see the main issue as the deliverman shouldn't have had a gun. Right or wrong, that is not to be decided by me but a group of peers. But I will ask you this, should Pizza Hut or Airlines or any other business decide to put their people in a position in which to protect themselves or protect the ones they're in charge of, would it really mean a big increase in the nimber of innocent being...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (theplainstruth) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:36:07 GMT

I wasn't the least bit offended by your remarks, and I don't think anybody else was either. I just offered my opinion too. Keep it coming dude.

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (luvbus03) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:21:40 GMT

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. IN MY OPINION, it would only make things worse if we gave delivery people the right to carry guns on the job.

What I'm saying is that this guy shouldn't have had a gun with him. Does he have the right to carry a firearm, sure. Does he have the right to use it, sure. Just not when he is delivering pizza.

Did he have a gun pointed at his head, yes. Was it a last resort, probably. I'm not saying the he shouldn't have...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (theplainstruth) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:16:36 GMT

I'll share with you a true story about my friend James. First, a little background.

James is a gambler by trade, cards, dice, etc. You name it, and he'd bet on it. The guy looked like Clint Eastwood, but was actually a very soft...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (McTigger89) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:56:59 GMT

Vet, you should aprove that message because I know I do.

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (wcvet) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:45:32 GMT

what are the chances this perpetrator commits another armed robbery? I would think very low and I bet the encounter with SMith and Wesson will have a more prohibitive effect upon future criminal action than jail would have.

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (McTigger89) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:29:26 GMT

Luvbus 03 wrote:

Wow.... you gun toting people are crazy. The fact of the matter is he works at pizza hut, and shouldn't have had a gun!!!

I worked at Pepsi in Huntsville, and we were told just to give the money up. Sure that is easier said then done, but that's what they expect. We had a guy that was in a similar incident, and the same result. He...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (Ausome11) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:19:50 GMT

Here in Fla, JEB! did it a few years back.

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (theplainstruth) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:14:29 GMT

If I'm not mistaken, ALA. just recently changed the law, allowing people to use lethal force to defend their property, not just themselves. I personally approve of this, as it's my opinion nobody is entitled to deprive me of my proprety(ergo my freedom), without due process. Any attempt to do so, will bring lethal consequences. Crime goes down when people refuse to be victims.It's pretty easy not to rob someone, don't you think?

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (Ausome11) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:04:33 GMT

luvbus03 wrote:
Wow.... you gun toting people are crazy. The fact of the matter is he works at pizza hut, and shouldn't have had a gun!!!

I worked at Pepsi in Huntsville, and we were told just to give the money up. Sure that is easier said then done, but that's what they expect. We had a guy that was in a similar incident, and the...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (luvbus03) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:58:40 GMT

Wow.... you gun toting people are crazy. The fact of the matter is he works at pizza hut, and shouldn't have had a gun!!!

I worked at Pepsi in Huntsville, and we were told just to give the money up. Sure that is easier said then done, but that's what they expect. We had a guy that was in a similar incident, and the same result. He fought back and get a suspended for defending himself.

My problem is at...

Re: Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (wcvet) — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 04:53:32 GMT

If you pull a gun on someone you deserve the consequences of your actions. He used deadly force and got it used against him. I have no problem with what the delivery man did and would have hoped I would have been quick thinking enough and physically able to do what he did. I think he should be applauded. I am not encouraging vigilantes but everyone has the right to defend themselves and I think all agree that having a weapon held to your head is provocation. Just as if a robber enters my home...

Here is something to make your blood boil

feeds@yuku.com (McTigger89) — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:38:51 GMT

Man, we are headed in the wrong direction as a country.

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